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It’s one of the problems with Formula One. Cars are dropping out less and less. So the surprise factor is missing. In the first twelve races there were only eleven defects. This is due to ever more intensive test bench runs.

Formula 1 is moving tightly towards a new record. If the picture of the first half of the season repeats itself from the Belgian GP onwards, then this Formula 1 year will be the one with the fewest defects of all time. In the first 12 races there were only 11 technical retirements. This is a rate of 0.92 defects per race.

Even compared to the last three years, this represents a massive drop. Not to mention the 70s, 80s or 90s. 1987 was the worst year in GP history with 12.1 defects per Grand Prix. In 2018 there were 45 technical breakdowns in 21 races. That’s 2.14 per Grand Prix. In 2017 there were 60 in 20 races or three defects per WRC round. 2016 is a little better with 52 retirements for technical reasons in 21 races. The quota is 2.47.

This season seven of the ten teams have covered more than 90 percent of all possible race kilometres. The reliability is breathtaking. You can almost speak of standard production. But it’s bad for the sport. The surprise factor is missing. In the past, you could never be sure that anything would happen, even at the most boring race. Today you know it.

Just a defect in the top teams

Reliability is the result of foresighted design, high production quality, good fault analysis and complete quality control. Here, too, the formula applies: Those who have more money are better off. In the defect statistics, there is a clear gradient in the field. The three top teams only had one single defect to complain about in the first twelve races. After all, the remaining seven teams had ten. Mercedes, Ferrari, Williams, Alfa Romeo, Toro Rosso and Racing Point still have a clean slate.

The most conspicuous is the quality improvement at Red Bull. The team from Milton Keynes has always built fast but often fragile cars. In 2018 Red Bull counted nine defects. In 2017 there were eight. This time only one. A drive shaft on Pierre Gasly’s Red Bull broke in Baku. Red Bull found it difficult to reproduce the damage. It is assumed that unfavourable vibrations when driving over the curbs damaged the half-shaft joint on the wheel side.

Red Bull with more test bench time

Red Bull Sports Director Helmut Marko confirms: “The quality improvement was a clear target for our engineers. We’ve failed too often in recent years.” Red Bull liked to pass the buck to its former engine partner Renault. But in the past it wasn’t always Renault’s fault. There was also damage to the clutch, gearbox or electrical systems.

Max Verstappen reveals that the engine partner was indirectly responsible for the damage in the chassis area. “Today we can drive much longer and more intensively on the test bench. This allows us to test all components under continuous load at the limit.”

The secret: Honda provides many more engines for test bench runs, and they can also be driven there with more power, i.e. under realistic conditions. “They themselves also have many more test benches. In Japan there are test facilities for all kinds of components,” reveals team boss Christian Horner.

But the showpiece is the so-called VTT test rig. It’s in Milton Keynes. The complete car with engine, transmission, chassis and cooling can be tested on it on any race track day and night in all weather conditions. Red Bull can even connect its full-size test stand directly to its simulator. The car then does in the room next door what the driver specifies in the simulator. This is not possible with Mercedes and Ferrari. VTT monsters for 15 million euros

Only the top three teams own one of these VTT monsters. Cost: at least 15 million euros. Open at the top. Renault is considering acquiring such a system by 2021. If you want to keep up with the top teams, that’s almost essential. It is probably no coincidence that Renault and its customer McLaren are only in 8th and 9th place in the reliability statistics. They are responsible for a total of seven of the eleven technical failures.

The VTT test stand practically replaces real test drives in terms of quality improvement. In the 2000s, Ferrari unwound up to 70,000 kilometers oro year in Fiorano and Mugello. This is no longer permitted today. But on the test benches there is no limit.

The private teams will run after this gap forever. Racing Point technical director Andy Green regrets. “These VTT test stands are a huge advantage. But this will always be reserved for the factory teams. It wouldn’t make any sense for us to buy one. We wouldn’t have the engines to do that.

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This thread is for general discussion of current topics in F1 and quick questions about the sport.

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Can the driver lineup change madness start now please? I’m bored.

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We just need someone to start this whole madness. Like Ricciardo last year

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I feel like a lot of it also depends on Mercedes.

As soon as Mercedes announces their driver line up, we might see some chances due to Ocon perhaps moving to Renault, Haas or Williams. Or perhaps a shock move that forces Bottas to choose another team like Haas.

But to be honest I feel like there will be little changes, since everyone just moved last year and a lot of drivers seem happy where they are. Perhaps if Abiteboul truly lost his mind we may see a Hulk to Haas and Ocon to Renault happening, but I’m very doubtful.

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I can only say what I’ve been saying all this time: there’s nothing to announce. There will be no madness. 2020 is a filler year. There might be a change here and there, but nothing crazy and the front will be unaffected. Grosjean is most likely going to be replaced, but I think that’s gonna be a seat switch with another mid-tier driver and Latifi might replace Kubica. That’s all we can hope for. I might be wrong and there might be something big, but we can’t downright expect that, so don’t hold your breath.

Edit: happy cake day though.

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Anybody think there’s going to be some news today? Break gone on too long… Getting desperate

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Grosjean to retire I think

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Either the end of Kemmel straight, where you can see Turns 7-8-9, or the inside of the Turn 10 hairpin, from there you can see the cars coming out of Turn 9, through Turn 10, then speed away after Turn 11. First option is the best for action, second option is best for amount of time seeing the cars.

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After seeing all these incredible liveries for hypothetical new teams, I kinda really want to see a Honda-backed Ariel F1 team, mainly to finally fill the void left by Caterham.

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Do you think midfield drivers get overlooked by the fan base on their abilities simply because thet aren’t getting poduims.

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That’s the whole reason behind F1.5, and it’s bringing significant attention to Sainz’s performance this season for example.

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A lot of casual F1 fans definetly only focus on the top teams. They often struggle to tell you who’s even racing for Alfa or teams as such. But the more interessted fans are aware of the drivers in the mid-field and their abilities and success or lack thereof

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No, but its also true that in general the best drivers get the best seats, in turn if they can’t perform there then they get turned on, see Gasly. Maybe in a single year midfield drivers get over/underrated but over a couple of years then you can see the trajectory of drivers like Leclerc who had promise as a midfield so got a better seat. Sainz for example is considered good at the moment, deservedly so in my opinion but we’ve seen a few years of him and he’s been good but not special. Maybe he has grown as a driver and improved massively or the McLaren has got better, most likely both.

If anything, midfield drivers might be overrated due to people putting the most successful driver’s results down to the car whilst attributing the results of midfield drivers down to talent.

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No. There are shallow people who only “see” the top drivers, so when they win they can boast about cheering for the winning driver (this of course mostly means fans of the dominating drivers, currently that’s Hamilton), but that’s not relevant. Real fans and viewers can notice talent and a talented driver doesn’t have to drive a top car to show his talent. I.e. Russell, Norris or in the past Leclerc, Verstappen, Vettel, etc. They’ve all started in lower tier teams and could show their talents regardless, which intrigues viewers who start cheering for them regardless of the driver not fighting for the podium places.

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I just realised the summer break isn’t even that long.

We had some MotoGP races in there to keep the jitters away… really good ones too, and we’ll have Formula 1 again next week.

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Apart from Jüri Vips (Red Bull/Toro Rosso), Tsunado (Red Bull/Honda), Schwartzman (Ferrari/Alfa), Latifi (Williams, paydriver), Mick Schumacher (Ferrari/Alfa/Name).

Are there any upcoming names that I should be aware of that have a good chance of entering the sport within 5 years?

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Huebert is the last GP3 champion and doing well in F2 right now. Apart of Renault though I believe not backed weirdly.

Zhou was Ferrari and is now Renault, could also possibly have Chinese backing.

O’Ward is Red Bull and currently racing in Japan. Unknown just what their plan is for him to make it but possible.

Armstrong shows promise with his strong junior success. Independent. Ferrari

Lundgaard is similar to Armstrong. Renault backed.

Abiteboul is irritated to the tips of the hair and shifts the responsibility especially on Hulkenberg

Which is hilarious if you consider that their big off-season purchase and new nr 1 driver Danny is only 5 points ahead.

Of course Hulk’s mistake was unfortunate, but if he wasn’t made aware of the fact that he needs to stay off that run-off area at all costs by the team, they are equally as much to blame. If I’d been on the pit wall in that race by that point in the proceedings I’d have told my drivers to take 0% risk in the final corner, since it was the only really dangerous part of the track.

Ocon would fit well in that team, unlike Danny. He deserves better.

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I hope you do understand, that when you get to f1, it is your moral obligation to put Reddit logo on your helmet.

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Ok that’s just unreasonable. It would be much easier and make more sense to invite all the active users on this subreddit to the grand prix of their choosing. For free of course.

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Why not put it on right now!

level 1

Shit that’s cool, what series? And what team?

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Formula 4 Americas with Jay Howard Driver Development. (Yes, the Indycar driver)

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How did you get into f4 I’ve been wanting to race for the longest

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What continent do you live in? it’s a regional series so it depends where you are.

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Wow, so you actually are on racing driver path. Good for you!

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Really cool! It must be amazing to drive a car like that!

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Is this your first step in racing or did you drive karts before?

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Wow man, congrats! Great stuff!

I wish you all the best. 🙂

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How were Toyota engines during their time in F1? What I remembered back then was that the team and car in general just underwhelmed with a few moments of brilliance.

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That’s what I remember as well. It seemed the engine was a tad better then the chassis

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Heir engine is thought to be fine even though interestingly their best races were on chassis tracks. Toyota also ran a few “wild” aero concepts at times so their car used to be very hit or miss on a weekend, they also did some stuff with their suspensions all the time so they were notorious for tyre issues in some way.

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One thing about their engine was it was extremely reliable, I don’t think the Toyota team or any their customers had a single engine related DNF, which is an utterly ridiculous stat.

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The fucking headers are massive.

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Everything is massive in this beast

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It’s a shame the recession hit and they decided to pull out at the end of 2009. The Toyota was actually a pretty decent car that season and managed 5 podium finishes.

They’d even completed the 2010 car but obviously we’ll never know how competitive it was.

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How did that even fit in the car

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Jean Alesi

3 points · 25 minutes ago

Judging by there the camera is likely located on the phone, it’ll be a picture of their hairlines and the sky.

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Alonso and his Samsung Galaxy -3.

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Sick phone

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Only time when they both would have had the same haircut

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Mika Häkkinen

1 point · 11 minutes ago

Ah, the Ron Dennis haircut.

They used to allow drivers to drive to their spot, even through the crowd. Then something happened, someone was struck or nearly struck, so they changed that rule. Now they have to stop behind the last car and their mechanics push them to their spot.

At first yes only 12 races in Red Bull, but again he won’t drive in a Red Bull again this season

  • Last season he was one of the 3 drivers outside Ferrari, Mercedes and Red Bull to complete a lap on the third position (Perez 12, Sainz 8), nobody completed a lap as first or second.

This season (after 12 races) 6 drivers outside the ‘top six’ completed laps on a podium position: Kvyat 12 on 2nd/5 on 3rd, Hulkenberg 6 on 2nd/2 on 3rd, Stroll 3 on 2nd/11 on 3rd, Ricciardo 2 on 2nd, Räikkönen 1 on 2nd and 1 on 3rd, Magnussen 1 on 2nd. Note: German GP

  • Gasly completed more laps being 4th in a Toro Rosso (29) last season than he completed this season in a Red Bull (24).

For 2018 stats change 2019 to 2018 in the link, can’t submit that one.

Edit: Fun fact – His teammate Verstappen completed every racelap not being lower than 9th. To put that in perspective Hamilton’s lowest is p15, Perez p17, Vettel p18.

To end with something positive Gasly on the other hand is with the Hulk and Stroll (and drivers mentioned above) one of the drivers that never completed a lap on p20.

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So yeah, the F1 cars are pretty awesome. It’s like a collection of the cars he drove, way down to the Jordan. Also a collection of his helmets and some gloves. The cars look pretty authentic, although the tobacco sponsors have been removed. The cars by itself are pretty awesome, well maintained. They have some wear and tear, so they might be the real chassis.

The museum itself is not so much a museum as it is a fancy car dealer. So besides the F1 cars its not really worth it. Some old cars mainly Porsches and Benzes for sale. Also some Lamborghini’s and bikes. But then again you can walk in for free, so if you’re in Cologne, definitely go visit. But I wouldn’t go out of my way to go there tbh.